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'JP Yadav deserved a higher rating'

September 10, 2005 02:03 IST

Readers' views on the Team India ratings.

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Yuvraj, Dhoni, Nehra, Pathan, are way overrated. Yuvraj is far from consistent.

Dilip Purohit

Los Angeles

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I do not agree with the rating of ganguly, Sehwag Dravid and Irfan pathan. All of them should not get more than 3/10. Ganguly is out of form ok But how come Dravid is suddenly showing off form. Is he doing it on purpose? Then he should be banned. It is quite certain now that Gaanguly will not be chosen for the Indian team in future after the Zimbabwe tour. But we would have lost a very able and courageous captain. The likes of whom we have not seen since Sunil gavaskar took on the world. Dravid is too goody goody and diplomatic to be a good captain.

Of course the selectors want that. The problem created in the Indian team is due to the Board policy of not appointing a captain for a long term. If a coach can be appointed for a year or maore why is the captain being appointed only for one series.? The Board wants the captain to be at its beck and call. This has created uncertainty in the mind of the captain and loss of confidence in his batting. The media spurred on by regionalism, parochialism and downright irresponsible reporting and the goupism in the Bord politics has driven in the death knell in a team which was looking like world beaters only a year back.

The media got hold of its favourite whipping boy, Ganguly as he was maligned from the day he was chosen in the team, way back in 1996, England tour when he scored back to back centuries and the likes of Bedi had to eat their own words. What we saw in Nagpur test against the Australians was downright antinational activity with the Nagpur association being anti dalmiya handed over the test on a platter to Australia witha  pitch tailor made for the Australians. Even the formidable Kapils devils the winner of the 1983 world cup were handed down a 5-0 drubbing at the hands of the West Indies when they visited India in the same year 1983 and India played the same bowlers who were totally ineffective on Indian pitches.

Our medium pacers were hammered to all parts of the ground by the rampaging WEst Indians. Why did the same team which won the world cup lose 5-0 to the same west Indiaes team. So we should have given our players the kind of pitch that was suited to their bowling strength in Nagpur. But we were more interested in scoring a point over Dalmiya than looking at the greater scenario of India our motherland winning. We Indians have always fought amongst ourselves and hence we were conquered by the foreigners.

Asitava

Kolkata

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Harish & Deepti's ratings are completely biased. After all who the hell they are to qualify for rating cricketers. Better stop this nonsense rating...

Arup

Chennai

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You are biased, Dravid and Ganguly should be rated to 2, venugopal 0

Sobhan

Kolkata

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How come Ganguly got 2 points in ur ratings. I am totally surprised. He should have got minus 10 (-10). Can u justify how do u guys gave him two points.

Harikrishna G

Chennai

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I would give both Harbhajan and Sourav 5/10 each. I would have given Rahul 7/10, however because of last performances I must give at least 6/10 without doubt. Similarly, I would have given Saurabh 7/10, but his strugling scene stops me at 5/10 for now.

Parthasarathi Bhattacharya

Memphis

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It is bad towards rahul,Anil and balaji.Either is fine.

Prasad

Chennai

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Fully agree with the ratings. Captian & the team have to improve a lot. Its not the Stardom and its the performance which value

thomas

Calicut

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its unfair to say 2/10 for ganguly

Or else Rate Ganguly separately as batsman and Wicket keeper.

Thats the reasonable thing.

Vaidya

Boston

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Ganguly's Rating might be fair, but if it is 2 then Dravid's should be 1. This has been a Very Biased Report, whereby all knew that Dravid did worse than what Ganguly is does normally. How can you expect a standby captain to retain captainship when the actual captain is around.

The report is bogus and more drawn towards emotional side.

Samrat Guha

Mumbai

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I differ with the ratings given to Sehwag, Yuvraj & Agarkar.  Al of them should be given at least two marks less than they got.

Sourav & Nehra should be immediately kicked out of the team.  Both of them are the burdens of team.

P.S. BISWAS

BHILAI

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I agree, but what is the use... are we going to throw ganguly from the team or anyone who does not perform well.

Rajagopal

Tampa

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Why does Ganguly (SCG) get a rating of 2 while Dravid (RSD) get 5? If you look, their averages are similar - SCG did better in the zim series while RSD did better in the SL series. Both were captains and lost the finals. Aren't u being influenced by reputations? RSD is india's finest batsman, but if he fared badly he must be given a 2, like SCG got. And if dravid got 5, sehwag should have got more, as he produced decent innings in both matches.

He is inconsistent, but that is his job in the team. Dravid is the grafter, he is the hitter. Interestingly, both Yuvraj's good innings came against the weaker teams in the competition. WHY is rao being rated better than Ganguly? Only the bond yorker was hard to keep out... Why is pathan rated so low at 7/10? He picked a lot of wickets... ok, he didnt do well in the final, but so did the whole team except Kaif and sehwag! Plus he batted well...

U are being too strict on bowlers in general. 5/10 for the highest wicket taker(Agarkar)? He is expensive, everyone knows that, but he gets wickets... I think that is why he gets picked... Oh, and how does RP Singh deserve a rating of 5 only on the basis of one match, against one of the weakest sides in one day cricket?

arun

Bombay

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I Agree with Harish and Deepti analysis.Its good seeing to this analysis. Team should look forward

Mohith Shakir

Bangalore

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Dropping easy catches wrong umpire decision on Dhoni-cost the match-is it fault of the Captain?

kjdwarakanath

Chennai 600033

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Well Done Harish and Deepti. Progress card reflects my thought. But I worry if Zaheer cant shine as a paceman then who is the real paceman for India ?

Udhay

Singapore

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I agree with the ratings

S.Polisetty

Indore

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Yes I agree.

Karthikeyan

Bangalore

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yes

suresh

chennai

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yes i m 100% agree with u.

pramod

delhi

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Agree but let them allthink very honestly that we love respect and proud them as long as they play for criket and only for criket because thats what make them our heroes.

sabharwal abhay

simla

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Gangully has to remove out of capataincy and should be handed over To rahul Dravid

yashwant

Nagpur

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I agree with their views about the captain Ganguly and Harbhajan. In my opinion, both of them should be dropped. But I felt they were little harsh on Balaji who bowled his heart out and for Raina based on one catch which he missed on final. Give them a chance

Aaron

Madurai

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yes, i agree

chaitanya

bangalore

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No,I do not agree with the ratings. Romeet Sharma

Bangalore

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Very poor performance

Ravi kumar A

Banglore

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Yes I agree with Harish and Deepthi's ratings. and we should through out players whose rank is below 7

Subhani

Hyderabad

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YES

DEBASISH CHATTERJEE

RANCHI

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Very Good Assessment. Agree with you completely

A.J.Smiles

Nairobi

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Agreed

Mohd Ghouse

Bangalore

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Do not agree with Rahul's rating & Sehwag's.While Rahul was wicket keeping his performance was much better.Sehwag only performed well in only one match.His rating should have been 4 only.

Manu

Bangalore

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ganguly should have got a zero and sehwag two out of 10... others are okay...

rahul

New Delhi

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Sourav Ganguly should be given 0 rating and should be shown the door out of team. Dravids rating should be improved

Sunil

Mumbai

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Except your evaluation for Agarkar i fully agree with you. Agarkar is a man who can do wonders for Team India if given proper exposure as an alrounder.

Bakhtiyar Khan

NOIDA

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yes i strongly disagree because it is ganguly's fault . it is the team managements fault for not taking the proper team like avoiding laxman(even though he has a good track record), zaheer khan and balaji and inculding venu gopal, ashish nehra kind of unhealthy players. not including rahul dravid in 2nd down in batting.

and another thing is that they have put innocent people under trouble of scam like jadeja and azaruddin. if they in clude them india will win for sure. other their curse will be always on the team and WILL NEVER EVER COME UP WITH SERIES WIN IN THE CENTURIES TO COME. INDIA WILL DOOM IN CRICKET AND WILL NEVER RISE UP WILL THESE THINGS AND NOT MET

sajan

BANGALORE

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CHANGES IN TEAM SELECTORS

ADEEB AHMAD

NEW DELHI

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Ratings are very good and they are according to their performances except of JP Yadav. I think he has done a better job then his rating says.

Satya

New Delhi

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Not completely though.  RP Singh and JP Yadav deserved a higher rating for the chances they received.  Rao and Raina simply blew up their chances...they deserve a rating similar to Ganguly. Otherwise I agree with the rest of the ratings...My dream team would be Sehwag and Yuvraj (he is best during the first two powerplays when no spinners are present) should open...followed by Kaif, then by Dravid...JP Yadav can come in at number 5...followed by RP Singh/Agarkar( he can bat better at 6)...then Dhoni can pad up...followed by Pathan/Bhajji depending upon the pace of the game...followed by Nehra

Raghu

Kolkata

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The evaluation was good. I hope the review panel sees the slide show and do some corrective action to raise India's hope to compete in World cup 2007.

Thanks harish and Deepti for the wonderful slide show/article

Farukh

Pune

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Hi, Iam Arpita.The recent indian team well on good.But the team disapointed & frosted by two reasons.

A. Sachin Absents

B. The team player combinatation his very crucial and distrubed.

arpita

Bhubaneswar

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yes. their ratings are exactly correct adn the Board should try to use this report/ratings for Building up the team.

It's 100% correct ratings.

SATISH

chennai

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For too long certain senior players have remained in the comfort  zone.This is the most appropriate time for a major shake up. Rahul's claim to captaincy is debatable.

vijay saxena

New Delhi

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First remove ganguly the big politician then see our team , i think ask to tendulkar for captaincy

Nitin

nasik

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yes mostly i do agree with u but for Ganguly i wish to give not even zero points and also same is the case with venugopal Rao .. he is not positive cricketer 

mangesh

mumbai

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Yes. Its Time to drop Saurav Ganguly in all forms of the cricket.Raina should be given more chance.

ravi kantth

Bangalore

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I Agree with the rating for batsmen and bolwers except Harbajan Singh..He should be given 1 or 2

Anurag

Ghaziabad

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jay p bowled tidily and economically and is good for 5th bowler slot.  It was harbajans inability to take wickets that causes us problems

pazzza

london

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Saurav's rating is highly unfair. I know that he has faired badly but I am not sure if you can rate him below Venugopal Rao and Raina.

Sudipto Dey

Kolkata

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I strongly disagree with all u guys statistics. Indian team have players who only play for personal records/goals and huge money. we all talk about stats and stats of individual players and about their records. i have given up and i hv stopped watching india's matches from the past 1 year bcoz i have realised that i am being fooled by our great record making players (sachin, ganguly, viru, yuvraj etc.......). so forget cricket and enjoy life and other sports. hah hah ha....

Praveen Mendonca

Mumbai

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I dont like Indian Cricket team itself.

san

delhi

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Dravids poor form is due to loss of concentration due to captaincy issue.

Gangu should be given zero marks since his contribution is nagetive. High time Dravid is made captain and Kaif- VC. Ganguly should be removed from the team for revitalising the team.

Govardhan shetty

Bangalore

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It seems the correspondents were totally biased, while creating this report card. Dravid and Ganguly both failed miserably but the stick is whipped only on Ganguly.

Sushanta

Bangalore

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Agree, Needs to add,rest Mr. Ganguli for ever. He is finished already.

Ravindra Jayawant

Saigaon, Viet Nam

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We do not agree with you on two instances. (1) You have been bias against Ganguly (2) You have been too kind to Nehera.If the catches were accepted in the final match against New Zeland INDIA would have won the match.These catches are taken in Club games.Captain can not catch for every player.You are prone to cut the neck of Captain in team failure which is unfortunat.India lost Great Captains like Gavaskar,Kapil Dev even Great like Tiger Pataudi.You must learn to grow captain if he has potential.Ganguly has given India lot of pride.

SAUVIK

LEEDS U.K

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The ratings made by Harish and Deepti are precisely right and it shows the true picture of the Team India's performance.  They have given the lowest points 2/10 to Indian skiper Sourav Ganguly, which is exactly true.  He deserves even worse than this.  He has lost all his capabilities to bat.  All bolwers even those of minnow's know his weekness.  He is not willing to improve his batting, instead he is sticking to his captaincy.  He doesn't even deserve place in the team and how selectors can make him captain of the team.  Please at least this time do the thorogh review and true review of his performance and drop him from the team.  He is really a extra luggege and burden, which team India is carring.  The player like dravid really deserves long term in his captaincy.  He should not have dropped from the captaincy.  Selectors made real mess there itself.  At least this time they should make him skiper till world cup 2007.  They should not kill performance of the best batsman of team India.  He is Mr. Realiable and the wall.  He should be made the captain of the team till world cup 2007.  At least this time there should not be any politics in the selection process.  Ganguly is there just because dirty politics.  He should be removed first which his all political contacts.  He is the junk in our team.  We have to throw this junk, if we have to win world cup 2007.

vinay

singapore

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need to bring back sachin, kaif to open 3rd dravid to be 1st down. ganguly& yuvaraj to strengthn the midddle order and bring in a new seamer

deepu

bangalore

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It is unfortunate but true that the TEAM INDIA which evolved on and after the last WORLD CUP where TEAM INDIA came out strongly after humiliating defet from AUSTRALIA and reached FINAL has lost its path the reason most likely be (a) Too many matches too soon (b) Loss of focous (c) lack of rotational reserve bench strength which not only gives adequate rest to front line players but also opend doors for the contenders keeping the place rest secure for the complecents.I still feel that this TEAM INDIA has enough potential to bounch back and soon they will but they require a bit of stick from the greats like Mr Gavaskar and Mr Kapil dev.It is also unfortunate that the great motivetor Ganguly is less in form.Any panic drastic change may bring break in cohesion within the team.Let Tendulkar join the team and if he can accept the job of Vice Captain in World rest team then there should be no hesitation to give him the Captaincy of TEAM INDIA keeping Ganguly in the team for few games to give him chances to re gain his form for he is too good a player to be left out when he has good c ricket left in him irrespective of what MrBedi thinks of him

DR S>B

LONDON

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I am agree with Harish and Deepti's rating except with Sourav Ganguly rating.His rating should be below 1 or either in negative.Right now is the worst and useless member ofIndia Team.

Vikash Kumar

Hyderabad

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I do not agree with the ratings. The total rating of players does not match with the team ratings and it is not justified.

Srinivasan

Bangalore

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I agree with ratings of all the players except for Agarkar's. He should have got a better rating than what he got and suddenly he is looked upon as a allrounder rather than a bowler. That is not fair. He did very well as a bowler.

Rajasekhar Reddy.M

Hyderabad

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Remove the games against WI and ZIM and you know that the whole team is in disarray. e.g Yuvraj gets 6 even when he has thrown his wicket away at crucial points. I thought sixty percent meant first division.

Sumit

Delhi

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not at all. How Sehwag got 5 out of 10. he only scored in the final.if u see his record he does not deserve to open the innings. He only scores once in a while. Venugopal rao got 4,well,in international cricket u will get only few chances and u have to prove there only.

Dhoni got 8... surprising! he batted well,but his keeping is horrible. j.p yadav got 5. i think he deserves more.kumble who bowled well against week westindies only got 6!!!

finally,ganguly,the captain who didnot play well deserves poor rating.but can anyone expain me how  raina,rao,murli kartick,all got better rating than him. it is a complete biased report card. Now we all forgot how many innings dravid didnot get runs but stil has a place in india team as a vice captain.what forced him to keep wicket. now we say he is a proven performer,so four inings does not prove anything. we overlook sehwag's bad performances. because we have ganguly to blame for everything. i think india lost 9 finals under his captaincy,but before that india hardly could reach the final.

I think ganguly should retire fron cricket, so that india can reach their position before 2000 where reaching semifinals in a big tournament is a day dream for us.

Debbijoy

Bangalore

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Stop Poltics in Cricket.. why non performer like Gangulay is being allowed to be the captain if we have now choice of Super substitute ( SS). It's a young India, so chance should be given to Young & performers only.

Rajeev Sinha

Mumbai

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Have these two ever held a cricket bat in their hands?

Bharat

Delhi

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Yes I strongly agree. Anil Kumble Should Be Taken Back inside team.

mujtaba

Bangalore

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The bowlers are given too high a rating for their performances, a 7/10 on the point scale is close to a match winning performance but Pathan hardly won a match on his own for India. And Yuvraj has failed consistently against the bigger teams, his hundreds have been against Zimbabwe and WI.

Madhu

Bangalore

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Yes I am agree with Harish and Deepti's decision but I am not agree with Zaheer Khan because he is doing well now days and his bowling is going good and he is good with bat. And he win the man of the series award in africa asia series.

Md Taif Anwer

Bangalore

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i agree  with you but i feel agarkar must be rated more poorly he didnt bowl at all well agaist zimbabave he bowl fine when otherside pathan was bowling very well otherwise agarkar has only impact in giving opponent confidence of winning matches i remember once agaist south africa he gave lot of runs to klusener and we lost the match he should not be selected, similarly murli kartik good for faishon industry rather than performance, even performance of harbhajan should be noted that he is not able to take wicket and he was a good bowler once upon time when non regular bowler like shewag taking 3 wickets he is not upto the expectation, overall india concern is bowling we dont have wicket taking bowler like warne etc our opponent like pakistan nows they can beat india at any ground anywhere because of poor bowling attack and ganguly dont use all options like sehwag, yuvraj,tendulkar etc regularly which give him more option to bowl only suggestion is remove, ganguly, agarkar,murli kartik,venugopal rao, sureh raina and work on player like j.p.yadav

ratnesh

mumbai

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Agree

Arul Gopi

Bangalore

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i agree with harish kotian and deepti patwardhan

kalyan

mumbai

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Indians performance is worst from last 6 months. Please choose good batsman and bowler. We are 100 crores of people. But we can't choose a good players. why not we can choose. Please select good players, Bring our nation up in the world.

senthilkumar.R

Bangalore

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Only the rating of Ganguly is acceptable. The rating of Rahul Dravid is totally wrong.He should score 1/10 because if a good batsman with his capacity demoralised with the captaincy issue, then he is not suitable for that post itself.The ratings of Pathan is also more compared to the damage he caused in the final match in Jimbabwe.He should score 2/10.Khaif also score 6/10 as he didn't took full advantages with very good starting score in the final match in Jimbabwe.

Bhabani Sankar

Baroda

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india basically failed due to lack of  100 %commitment

sarish

london

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agree with the ratings

Gopinath

Bangalore

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No, not at all. It is again the same thing, if they perform they are "GOD" next day. And if they don't, that's what the reaction is. "Mujrim kaun"??? It is media which treat them like this and that's why they are not able to perform. They are always in pressure because of media covering so much extra. It should be taken as any another sport and players should be spared from all this hype. let them play without any pressure because they have deliver and they can. I request media to take responsibility and let them enjoy theri game, performance and winning will follow. Believe me...

Sumit Kalra

Delhi

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yah i m quite agree with the rating done by them, they were quite nice and apprecite one, just in two case it shoud some.. right one as sehwag,not judge ony by run, but by starting he gaves to team, and zaheer has done well under bad sitauations in srilanka, 3/10 is not justified for him, other wise all is perfect

varun

delhi

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Ganguly should be removed from the team with imidate effect, Reintroduction of Ganguly as captain lead to decline in the performance of Dravid.

Rajeev Kumar Agarwal

Bhopal

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I'm totaly agree with this rating except the Ashish Nehra's rating.i think complete new team should build up with the new faces.

Neeraj Goel

Gurgaon

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Statistics shows records based on avg. which is not always the correct method. Body language also matters equally. I agree upto 60% to this report card. Indian players are missing killer instinct its easy die attitude they are showing.. Need to improve performance with consistancy...

Prasad

Mumbai

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I totally endorse your evaluation.

sivaramakrishnan

Mumbai

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I agree by 100% with ur ratings.Let there be a serious review by the committee and take extreme steps which may include axing of star to save "Cricket India"

Ravi Pratap

Hyderabad

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good review!!!

its time to axe the USELESS CAPTAIN of india, and select those players who scores above or equal to 5 points. for rest all,its time to say good bye to cricket

sudheer

Dallas

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Agree -  No players were confident in their mind to win. This attitude has to be changed in future

Srini

Bangalore

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I dont agree with the statement that Nehra was the best bowler in both the series. I think he was the best only in Sri Lanka and was a Liability in Zimbabwe matches where he did mis-fieldings and dint bowl well too. Nehra derseves a 6. I think Agarkar deserves to be ranked much better than 5 he deserves a 7 atleast, with the kind of bowling and feilding he had displayed.

Gautam

Chennai

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I agrre and being myself as player i would suggest to derop Gangully from the team.

Radeesh

Bangalore

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I am very much agree with the stats given by Harish and Deepti. I think couple of the top players should get sacked from the team so that they should know the value of the game.

Vikas Dhiman

Faridabad

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Yes, I do agree. really blue eleven disappointed country people. bough disgrace to former criket's legend. Now time has come to apply seriousness for selecting blues. we have two option remaining either cricket should immediately ban or regular failure must kick out.

Ganguly & Harbhajan should practice at home.

Pavan Shivlingam

Mhow

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Its really a good report, excellent!

The fact is I think India should drop Ganguly. It looks like he is been favoured by the selectors. I would say let him perform in domestic cricket and his place back in Indian cricket. To tell you the fact fans don't like this, a person who is out of form and giving him a captains tag just to secure him its really rubish. Selectors are really Idiots!

Sometimes i fill ashame of the India team & the selectors.

Mario

Mapusa

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Considering that 5/10 is just abt ok to retain position in the side, I feel that guys like Yuvi, Bhajji, Venugopal, Nehra andSehwag have been given a point too high. All of them definitely played below par nd shud be mde to pay for it.

Also, Raina Yadav and Agarkar in particular hdeserve better. What do u guys have against Agarkar. He has always been expensive, but has always taken wickets. Never needed helpful wickets to how his worth ( a la Pathan and Nehra), and is flawlwss inthe field. ( Nehra has to be super sub, ehis fielding is the Worst in International cricket). I think Agarkar deserves better 

Nishank Joshi

Mumbai

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Statswise facts are there. With same bunch(almost) we have played last three years and results are we are just 3 above from lower sides in ODI rankings. Consistency, performance was never a criteria for selection. All those who just play one game(well) are preserved for next 10 games. The money should be distributed on performance basis only.

ramakant gurjar

Mumbai

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Iam big fan to Indian Cricket.  As i'll keep leave for my job to watch matches if India is playing.  AS they are disappointing for few years this is the time for us to change the strategies. 

Iam noway understanding that Why we are still continuing with Sourav as a Captain.  (Take an Example of Australia, Steve Waugh).  We have to take some serious decisions towards players who is not performing.

India is not lack of potentiality.

Make use of valuable resources. 

Give a captaincy to Virender.  I believe he is the right person in an indian team to take it forward.

Hope that selectors will think of 100 crore people's intention while selecting Indian team for upcoming serieses with Srilanka and South Africa.

Prabhakar

Bangalore

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I disagree with harish&deepti's ratings specially in bowlers,it clearly seen from both the series bowlers dominated them,then how can u rate nehra&pathan at 7 inspite  missing a match in zimbabwe,pathan playing 5 innings batting scored 128 runs as 7 order batsmen in 9 matches.

S.Iqbal Hussain

Hyderabad

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i dont agree with the ratings. what needs to be considered that who could perform on the important matches. irfan, nehra, always fail to deliver in crucial mathches. they have talent but not mental touhness to bowl a good line when it comes to final. raina alwys plays upishly and feel not a player to be retained. gangugly has been very badly i feel he deserves better ratings than raina, venogopal etc.

k arora

delhi

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In the scale of 10, the best person in the Indian team can only reach a max of 5 and the rest of 5 can be considered only if they are within top 3 of the international teams. So, I think the scorer giving Irfan, Nehra, Kaif and Yuvraj a 7 or 8 is woefully more and clouds the real performance.

MSR

Dubai

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your ratings are very good,but i would slightly differ on kaif and yuvraj just becasue they scored hundreds you gave them good points,i would give then 7 each and not more than that

GAURANG R GUPTA

mumbai

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Why Sourov Ganguly is given 2/10??? It should be 0/10.

He had no performance.

Also same for Harbhajan Singh.

He deserves no marks.

He should be driven out from the 50 squd team.

For these reasons I am not agree with this rating.

Santu Nandy

Kolkata

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For me even considering Ganguly in team for the forthcoming series will be another blunder the selectors are making. We have to forget the past and move forward for the future. If you consider the past performance, then I think Kapil Dev should be leading the team once again. Ganguly not only lost his batting form but also lost his captaincy brain. The feedback mentioned given by both Harish Kotian and Deepti Patwardhan are the wake up call for the Selectors before they select the team for the futue events.

N.K. Raghunathan Nair

New Delhi