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The Rediff Interview/BSP MP Rashid Alvi

September 08, 2003

The current political upheavalin Uttar Pradeshhas led to the break-up of the Bahujan Samaj Party Legislature Party. The BSP willclearly now be wooed by the Congress to gain an edge in the assembly election in Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan due this winter.The Bharatiya Janata Party, contemplating a general election in February, will be nervous by the prospects of aBSP-Congress alliance. The BSP's internal assessment is that Mulayam Singh Yadav's 160-legislator Samajwadi Partywill soon acquire independent strength in Uttar Pradesh by breaking Ajit Singh's 14-MLA Rashtriya Lok Dal, the16-MLA Congress and winning over Independent MLAs.

Rashid Alvi, the BSP's vocal Rajya Sabha member,told Senior Editor Sheela Bhattthatthe BSP has decidednot to have anyalliance with the BJP in theassembly or general election.

Who engineered the defection in your party?
The Bharatiya Janata Party manipulated the show. The BJP putMulayam on the highest seat of Uttar Pradesh. The proof of our allegation is in the situation itself. In 2001, when the assembly electionresults wereannounced the situation was the same. There was no wayone could formthe government without anotherparty's help. As a result, President's Rule was imposed. The same situation has arisen today, but Mulayam could be sworn in because the BJPhelped the Samajwadi Party.

The BJPwant to supports Mulayam Singhbecause he is ready to facilitate the BJP on the Ayodhya issue. These two partieshave closed adeal under which the BJP will be allowed to pursue pro-Hindu politics and Mulayam will
use Muslims.In the end, innocent people will be sacrificed. Mulayam is the biggest exploiter of Muslims inIndia.

Else, why did Mulayam notbreak the BJP?

This government is the result ofthe BJP and Mulayam's mili-bhagat (alliance)! The BJP and Mulayam Singhhavehad a dubious understanding forlong. Mulayam didn't support Sonia Gandhi's leadership, otherwise she would have been prime minister of India today. Governor (Vishnu Kant) Shastri gave the Samajwadi Party14 daysto prove itsmajority. That itself shows theBJP is the architect of the Lucknowshow.

How was one-third defection from the BSP made possible?

Everybody contributed. Collectors' power in the districts, money power and police power was used to engineer the spilt. Money was never a problem.

Is Mayawatiin despair?

She is unchallenged. Her leadership is not affected. She isgetting more sympathy from her loyal voters. Even her enemies will agree to this fact. Only 37 MLAs have gone. Let 50 go -- it will not have any impact on Mayawati's position.

Breaking upa party can never be a desirable event in politics.

I agree. Our cadres arecertainly demoralized. But our vote bank is intact.

How come the BSP was caught unawares?

No, we were not. We knewMulayam Singhwas secretly meeting George Fernandes.

How do you read the situation now?

It is very clear. The BJP has givenMulayam a chance on one condition --allow us to make noises about the Ram temple.Mulayam will be allowed to makecounter-noises by the Centre. This isdirty politics where people will be killed. This is called communal politics where you trade human beings. This politics doesn't care for the prosperity of people.It evokes communal feelings, and in the end some get killed.

Mayawatitoned down her attack on the BJP ather last press conference. Why?

This is a wrong reading. How can we now think of going along with the BJP? Our party has taken a decisionnot to go with the BJP in the assembly or general election. We will notally with the BJP in anycoming elections.

Will Mulayam Singh'sgovernmentsurvive?

Mulayam will now concentrate on breaking the Congress and Ajit Singh's RLD,acquire a majority of its own. He will try to do it sooner than later. He knows the BJP, if displeased, can do anything to dislodge him. He will desperately try to be independent. In this dirty game the BJP is going to be taught a lesson or two by Mulayam. Just wait and watch.

The BJP has already lost its loyal base in UP. Mulayam will take his sweet revenge on the BJP by increasing his
strength.Then he will not be bothered about the BJP. At a later stage, when the SPtakes on the BJPwe will see the muck. These leaders don't care. When they play politics, the nation can go to hell.

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It's allways BSP was First. It's all betraded BJP, The centre last time was just fallen by one vote. more due to mayavati. BJP sould ...

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LOOK WHO IS TALKING!!!! BSP and SP are the symbol of all that is dirt in UP. Has Mr. Alvi forgotten that there was once ...

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Only a man like rashid can say such things. depature of mayawati's self serving govt. is good riddence.this is definitely a case of sour grapes. ...

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