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The H1-B Message Board

Sat Apr 14 12:52:09 2001
Name:Knownname
Email:srs007@rediffmail.com
Views:First of all America is not a dream land.It is a known fact one or other have to leave.Those who riped during harvest are just lucky.It is not that intelligency lead to america,as most of them were carried on the wind and those who are capable can still do good as this slow down in econom filters the better ones.

Sat Apr 14 15:08:36 2001
Name:sabir
Email:sabir_2011@rediffmail.com
Views:I think the slowdown is temporary & will sustain only for a period of a year or so.

Sat Apr 14 15:14:18 2001
Name:shreyas
Email:shreyasrathod@rediffmail.com
Views:those guys gonna come down to india and gonna raise the unemployment in india. IT jobs are gonna be more competative than it really is right now yaar. i dont know much about the future scene cause its loking dim for those who are there in us, here programmers parents arte there to feed them, there nobudy's around

Sat Apr 14 15:24:35 2001
Name:Kiran Tiwary
Email:kiran_tiwary1@rediff.com
Views:I think that the Indian talent in US of A is being wasted and they should return to the motherland and help make the country prosper

Sat Apr 14 17:06:29 2001
Name:siva
Email:share_80@hotmail.com
Views:I have seen a lot of professionals from India leaving good careers and getting into IT just to go abroad.Understand dynamics of H1b visa and IT industry.Software boom was because bilions of dollars are being spend by US and world wide industry not knowing real benefits.More of marketing success story.Only cost is human being salary in software.When H1b limit was increased there were reports in US media that there own people with years of US software experience arenot getting jobs.US software industry want people to work on H1B because they are cheaper (work at half salary than natives) and work more(for getting green cards since company sponsors you).But at same time,lot of people from South just do a course and small project show a experience of 3 years and rush to US.They pay 2-3 lacs to body shoopers ,who get them a valid H1B visa.Dowry or craze for US.Well in India also engineers donot have good jobs.But these people should realize ,abroad and even in India,MNC culture is that even if you have worked for 20 years,you can be laid off in one day.IT has to come down,and career in IT is on technolgy.Generally body shopper in US and India tie up and put guys on bench there and arrange interviews.Even a job is nothing,when in US they can kick a US citizen after 20 years of service(see American beauty).So guys leaving good careers should think twice before getting into IT and especially US.Growth comes down,jobs will come down as happens in every industry.People with good realtions at top are kept and other fired.This happened in other industries and could happen in IT.IT people is US through body shoppers are like bonded labour,and if youi donot have green card you come back .

Sat Apr 14 17:06:38 2001
Name:siva
Email:share_80@hotmail.com
Views:I have seen a lot of professionals from India leaving good careers and getting into IT just to go abroad.Understand dynamics of H1b visa and IT industry.Software boom was because bilions of dollars are being spend by US and world wide industry not knowing real benefits.More of marketing success story.Only cost is human being salary in software.When H1b limit was increased there were reports in US media that there own people with years of US software experience arenot getting jobs.US software industry want people to work on H1B because they are cheaper (work at half salary than natives) and work more(for getting green cards since company sponsors you).But at same time,lot of people from South just do a course and small project show a experience of 3 years and rush to US.They pay 2-3 lacs to body shoopers ,who get them a valid H1B visa.Dowry or craze for US.Well in India also engineers donot have good jobs.But these people should realize ,abroad and even in India,MNC culture is that even if you have worked for 20 years,you can be laid off in one day.IT has to come down,and career in IT is on technolgy.Generally body shopper in US and India tie up and put guys on bench there and arrange interviews.Even a job is nothing,when in US they can kick a US citizen after 20 years of service(see American beauty).So guys leaving good careers should think twice before getting into IT and especially US.Growth comes down,jobs will come down as happens in every industry.People with good realtions at top are kept and other fired.This happened in other industries and could happen in IT.IT people is US through body shoppers are like bonded labour,and if youi donot have green card you come back .

Sat Apr 14 17:06:40 2001
Name:siva
Email:share_80@hotmail.com
Views:I have seen a lot of professionals from India leaving good careers and getting into IT just to go abroad.Understand dynamics of H1b visa and IT industry.Software boom was because bilions of dollars are being spend by US and world wide industry not knowing real benefits.More of marketing success story.Only cost is human being salary in software.When H1b limit was increased there were reports in US media that there own people with years of US software experience arenot getting jobs.US software industry want people to work on H1B because they are cheaper (work at half salary than natives) and work more(for getting green cards since company sponsors you).But at same time,lot of people from South just do a course and small project show a experience of 3 years and rush to US.They pay 2-3 lacs to body shoopers ,who get them a valid H1B visa.Dowry or craze for US.Well in India also engineers donot have good jobs.But these people should realize ,abroad and even in India,MNC culture is that even if you have worked for 20 years,you can be laid off in one day.IT has to come down,and career in IT is on technolgy.Generally body shopper in US and India tie up and put guys on bench there and arrange interviews.Even a job is nothing,when in US they can kick a US citizen after 20 years of service(see American beauty).So guys leaving good careers should think twice before getting into IT and especially US.Growth comes down,jobs will come down as happens in every industry.People with good realtions at top are kept and other fired.This happened in other industries and could happen in IT.IT people is US through body shoppers are like bonded labour,and if youi donot have green card you come back .

Sat Apr 14 17:06:45 2001
Name:siva
Email:share_80@hotmail.com
Views:I have seen a lot of professionals from India leaving good careers and getting into IT just to go abroad.Understand dynamics of H1b visa and IT industry.Software boom was because bilions of dollars are being spend by US and world wide industry not knowing real benefits.More of marketing success story.Only cost is human being salary in software.When H1b limit was increased there were reports in US media that there own people with years of US software experience arenot getting jobs.US software industry want people to work on H1B because they are cheaper (work at half salary than natives) and work more(for getting green cards since company sponsors you).But at same time,lot of people from South just do a course and small project show a experience of 3 years and rush to US.They pay 2-3 lacs to body shoopers ,who get them a valid H1B visa.Dowry or craze for US.Well in India also engineers donot have good jobs.But these people should realize ,abroad and even in India,MNC culture is that even if you have worked for 20 years,you can be laid off in one day.IT has to come down,and career in IT is on technolgy.Generally body shopper in US and India tie up and put guys on bench there and arrange interviews.Even a job is nothing,when in US they can kick a US citizen after 20 years of service(see American beauty).So guys leaving good careers should think twice before getting into IT and especially US.Growth comes down,jobs will come down as happens in every industry.People with good realtions at top are kept and other fired.This happened in other industries and could happen in IT.IT people is US through body shoppers are like bonded labour,and if youi donot have green card you come back .

Sat Apr 14 17:08:02 2001
Name:siva
Email:share_80@hotmail.com
Views:I have seen a lot of professionals from India leaving good careers and getting into IT just to go abroad.Understand dynamics of H1b visa and IT industry.Software boom was because bilions of dollars are being spend by US and world wide industry not knowing real benefits.More of marketing success story.Only cost is human being salary in software.When H1b limit was increased there were reports in US media that there own people with years of US software experience arenot getting jobs.US software industry want people to work on H1B because they are cheaper (work at half salary than natives) and work more(for getting green cards since company sponsors you).But at same time,lot of people from South just do a course and small project show a experience of 3 years and rush to US.They pay 2-3 lacs to body shoopers ,who get them a valid H1B visa.Dowry or craze for US.Well in India also engineers donot have good jobs.But these people should realize ,abroad and even in India,MNC culture is that even if you have worked for 20 years,you can be laid off in one day.IT has to come down,and career in IT is on technolgy.Generally body shopper in US and India tie up and put guys on bench there and arrange interviews.Even a job is nothing,when in US they can kick a US citizen after 20 years of service(see American beauty).So guys leaving good careers should think twice before getting into IT and especially US.Growth comes down,jobs will come down as happens in every industry.People with good realtions at top are kept and other fired.This happened in other industries and could happen in IT.IT people is US through body shoppers are like bonded labour,and if youi donot have green card you come back .

Sat Apr 14 17:08:07 2001
Name:siva
Email:share_80@hotmail.com
Views:I have seen a lot of professionals from India leaving good careers and getting into IT just to go abroad.Understand dynamics of H1b visa and IT industry.Software boom was because bilions of dollars are being spend by US and world wide industry not knowing real benefits.More of marketing success story.Only cost is human being salary in software.When H1b limit was increased there were reports in US media that there own people with years of US software experience arenot getting jobs.US software industry want people to work on H1B because they are cheaper (work at half salary than natives) and work more(for getting green cards since company sponsors you).But at same time,lot of people from South just do a course and small project show a experience of 3 years and rush to US.They pay 2-3 lacs to body shoopers ,who get them a valid H1B visa.Dowry or craze for US.Well in India also engineers donot have good jobs.But these people should realize ,abroad and even in India,MNC culture is that even if you have worked for 20 years,you can be laid off in one day.IT has to come down,and career in IT is on technolgy.Generally body shopper in US and India tie up and put guys on bench there and arrange interviews.Even a job is nothing,when in US they can kick a US citizen after 20 years of service(see American beauty).So guys leaving good careers should think twice before getting into IT and especially US.Growth comes down,jobs will come down as happens in every industry.People with good realtions at top are kept and other fired.This happened in other industries and could happen in IT.IT people is US through body shoppers are like bonded labour,and if youi donot have green card you come back .

Sat Apr 14 17:29:28 2001
Name:Venkateshwar Rao Mechineni
Email:venkatmechineni@rediffmail.com
Views:I hope everything will be fine within couple of days.

Sat Apr 14 17:47:20 2001
Name:Navneet
Email:natraj_1973@yahoo.com
Views:If i have got my H1B approved, is their any time frame before which i have to get my Visa stamped. Also after stamping is their any time frame before which i have to fly.

Sat Apr 14 18:27:10 2001
Name:Still_In_Job
Email:dsfsdf@h34324.com
Views:How many of H1-B guys laid off...?

Sat Apr 14 19:05:22 2001
Name:slamdunkdafunk
Email:sarkar_funk@sify.com
Views:some1 ought 2 do something about it.....

Sat Apr 14 20:05:22 2001
Name:kV SUDEV
Email:kvsudev@yahoo.com
Views:How safe is it to leave an Indian govt. job now and join an IT consultant firm at New Jersey? Can this job be a permanent one?

Sat Apr 14 20:20:24 2001
Name:vish
Email:vish57@emirates.net.ae
Views:It would be unfair that a H1B visa holder is asked to leave US on losing his job. It does'nt matter if is unable to get a job with in the 1 month stipulated period. During times like these the regulations should be a bit relaxed.

Sat Apr 14 20:22:36 2001
Name:Mannur Reddy
Email:mrkr55@rediffmail.com
Views:Yes, the situation is very alarming for H1B Visa holders. But they have to blame themselves. Coming over US and marketing themselves is always a dangerous plan. Unless otherwise a ginune requirement from a good company, it is not worthwile coming over here and getting placed.

Sat Apr 14 20:56:10 2001
Name:Kedar Sivashanmugam
Email:kedu@net4india.com
Views:My thought regarding the economic regression in U.S.A. was due to the BUSH GOVT. Clinton was totally biased towards india ... even now india has got a lot of oppurtunities left out . If india calls back all of them who have lost their jobs and give them a good salary slip then i think india will be No.1 power in software buisness. the whole of silicon valley is dominated by indians and if indians come back then the scope for software in U.S. will become less and more less futile. if india can grab this gamble then i am sure that india will gain in its economy. even i dont find any fault with the Bush Govt. as he needs to give chance to his fellow citizens in all these aspects. we know that the americans lack knowledge and hence we can take up this gamble and come up. this is the right time for us to go to the casino and hit the jackpot.

Sat Apr 14 20:56:33 2001
Name:Kedar Sivashanmugam
Email:kedar_s7@rediffmail.com
Views:My thought regarding the economic regression in U.S.A. was due to the BUSH GOVT. Clinton was totally biased towards india ... even now india has got a lot of oppurtunities left out . If india calls back all of them who have lost their jobs and give them a good salary slip then i think india will be No.1 power in software buisness. the whole of silicon valley is dominated by indians and if indians come back then the scope for software in U.S. will become less and more less futile. if india can grab this gamble then i am sure that india will gain in its economy. even i dont find any fault with the Bush Govt. as he needs to give chance to his fellow citizens in all these aspects. we know that the americans lack knowledge and hence we can take up this gamble and come up. this is the right time for us to go to the casino and hit the jackpot.

Sat Apr 14 21:01:49 2001
Name:suresh baliga
Email:sureshbaliga@hotmail.com
Views:peoplewith h1-b should have adopted canadaian immigration since it was the easy thing out within 6 months from usa but people love making easy things difficult that is the main reason for this chaos

Sat Apr 14 21:07:02 2001
Name:dhirendra bhagoji
Email:dhiren@cilamil.com
Views:Anyway it was a baloon. How can u think of eccommerce in india & asian countries where as it is not even working in us & europe. It was a hipe created. If all the students will learn computer languages then what will happen to other feilds. These hitech plople with the software classes hvae made the parents of children to spend more on computer & the result is nill. It was to happen & predicted.

Sat Apr 14 21:13:29 2001
Name:Mahesh Mehta
Email:mahesh_varad@hotmail.com
Views:I think that the h1-b holders should be granted permission to work elsewhere in U.S only based on the other potential field with them say for example a person alongwith computer background may be having a flair touch in fields like sales,accounting,switching from programming to database managment side or even towards multimedia work.The main thing being their period of stay in the U.S which they have been alloted should be taken care of.

Sat Apr 14 21:22:01 2001
Name:Manjeet Singh
Email:manjeetsingh@rediffmail.com
Views:Its really sad to hear about the recission in the IT jobs in US. this will, no doubt, leave many dreams shattered and lot many insecurities behind. but, more or less this was expected, though we never had the guts to believe this. its the law of nature that a steep rise of anything is followed by an equally steep decline. i, here by, want all my affected countrymen not to lose heart and hope for the best......

Sat Apr 14 21:33:49 2001
Name:malcolm
Email:malcolmdsilva@hotmail.com
Views:Its very sad that the IT bubble has at last burst.

Sat Apr 14 22:38:49 2001
Name:harishrihna reddy
Email:dhkr@rediff.com
Views:How long this recission continues in U.S? When can we expect the projects again?

Sat Apr 14 22:53:20 2001
Name:sameer aras
Email:sameeraras@rediffmail.com
Views:in the past the IT companies were overvalued beyond their expected performance seeing to todays scenario,and every industry undergoes a recession sometime or the other ;and since it is the time where the global recession is still prevailing;there fore the impact on IT is no where leftover.now since in software /IT industry the main product is people or the employee who is directly linked to the development ,hence the employee is main source of overheads in such companies ;hence during the times of recession the main overheads are contributed by the man power of that industry.hence the downtrend is obviuos in todays scene,well lets hope for the best and hope the gloomy clouds sheds of very quickly and software again takes in its stride to continue the major attraction for the tech savy professionals.

Sun Apr 15 00:02:26 2001
Name:rajeev
Email:rkumar@uss.com
Views:I guess there is no harm if Indians are laid off I don't undersatnd why there is so much painic in returning to the motherland. It seems like a curse to indian to go back to where they come from They work their ass's off for americans, Can't they contribute lil bit for India..

Sun Apr 15 01:09:56 2001
Name:MM
Email:i_r@hotmail.com
Views:Indians spoiled the American IT market. Especially those from Hyderabad. The extent of fraud they apply from fake degree certificates upwards is appalling. Now they say H1B guys shd be given more time etc.

Sun Apr 15 02:30:39 2001
Name:Topsy
Email:toplone@rediffmail.com
Views:Don't leave the full paying good jobs in India..at the moment it is not worth it. America is not good these days...

Sun Apr 15 03:06:15 2001
Name:Raj
Email:infiniteguy@yahoo.com
Views:H1B visa is a work visa. You will be here as long as you have work and should go back once there is no work.....one shouldnt dream of staying here forever untill we sure of our green cards...otherwise we do hurt.

Sun Apr 15 04:08:39 2001
Name:Raj
Email:raj545@email.com
Views:I feel that a person on an H1 should be allowed to stay in the US till the date mentioned on his I-94 irrespective of whether he is on a job or not.Employment offer should only be mandatory to enter the US. Thereafter it should not matter whether a person works for XYZ BodyShopping Corp. or Burger King as long as his/her Visa is valid.Linking the visa with an employer brings about the prostitute-pimp-brothel scenario which BodyShoppers feed on and makes prostitutes out of H1. Till this piece of correction is made by the INS the people on H1 visas are always going to pass through mental turmoil.

Sun Apr 15 05:27:23 2001
Name:does it matter
Email:doesItMatter@nospam.com
Views:Guys, Some things to reflect on: 1. H1-B by *defination* is a *temporary* worker visa. 2. Layoff affect everyone, be they a citizen, a green card holder or on H1. The difference is that a H1-B, need to go home.. refer to point (1.). Just because you are software engineer, why should laws be different for you? 3. "Its not fair".. yeah so? shit happens. Move on.

Sun Apr 15 05:35:29 2001
Name:Sanjay
Email:sanjaysukralia@rediffmail.com
Views:My thoughts are different from the lay-offs. I landed here in USA after resigning in India from my past last job on 25th Jan,2001. Since then I am jobless without money and job. I never think of it when I was in India. I will never suggest anyone to come USA bcoz nothing here is stable and permanent. Its good for us to stay in India.

Sun Apr 15 06:40:01 2001
Name:mohd shahed
Email:shahed123@rediffmail.com
Views:I SHOULD ADVICE THEM TO LEAVE U.S, IN CASE OF LOSING THEIR JOBS, INDIA TOO HAS A PROMISING GROWTH

Sun Apr 15 06:48:27 2001
Name:srihari
Email:maneysrihari@yahoo.com
Views:We can'nt tell anything because everyday IT position changed.Ithink who are not have real experience that people should face lot of problem.

Sun Apr 15 07:52:27 2001
Name:sn
Email:snigam@email.com
Views:If someone provide more statistics about layoff and new H1B , that would be great

Sun Apr 15 09:18:32 2001
Name:Tinku Ray
Email:rayjit@hotmail.com
Views:With the recession on the corner it would be quite tough for H1B's to continue on their job as they ae temporary worker and first to go. Lot of small companies made money with them but this lot will be in bad trouble. Consider some one who is here for 5 Yrs, have not received the greenm card , lost the job, who has a kid going to school , learned american culture , history everything. Goingback to india for these people will be too shocking. The kids will be in big trouble to get accustomed in India

Sun Apr 15 09:37:10 2001
Name:dilip panjwani
Email:diliptp@sify.com
Views:i think this is just a phase where some new changes are coming up. it will take some time but the market would soon come back to it's peak as before, else the only option available to the indians is that they search for jobs in places like australia,london and the far east.

Sun Apr 15 09:41:09 2001
Name:kp.shankar
Email:kps4anka@mbox4.singnet.com.sg
Views:People who have ensured that their skill sets are contemparory and all those who have taken sufficient care to keep themselves abreast have nothing to fear.. just stick on there.. and nothing will happen... i feel all these changes are temporary aberrations and will clear off in a 3 months time... hence don't lose heart...

Sun Apr 15 10:16:25 2001
Name:D. Pandit
Email:dadapandit@hotmail.com
Views:It is quite true that the "recession" or slowdown in the tech-sector has hit the H1B computer professionals very hard. However, I personally believe, without crying and cribbing it is a time to re-visit our core skills. Is it not true that some jobs are still there in the market for players with C/C++/Unix skills or even in the 3-Tier architecture world with IBM M-Frame systems at the backend. Of course, writers in wWeek or other Ziff -Davis publications have noted it is important in these times to continually upgrade one's skills. Be they in Consulting with CRM/Siebel packages or Networking - that positive attitude can help. Finally, it is also well known American employers often prefer people for whom they need not undertake legal hassles. Hence, those with families may need to strive extra hard to keep their jobs; sometimes they will have to work without a good raise and keep their employers in good humour. Hope we all see light at the end of the tunnel again. Thanks!

Sun Apr 15 10:44:43 2001
Name:bhavleen kaur
Email:hansika91@hotmail.com
Views:IT industry is really down. But still the people who are on H1 visa should get the jobs in states

Sun Apr 15 12:12:01 2001
Name:Satya Ramesh
Email:vsatyaramesh@123india.com
Views:Well....This had to happen some day. But, not this early. I just hope that the hipe that is being created because of the situation....doesn't worsen it more.

Sun Apr 15 12:18:56 2001
Name:Madhavi Nene
Email:nenemadavi@hotmail.com
Views:If it was a dream, well, then all dreams are not achieved. I am one of them. I do have an H1b. How many of the sacked were employed in companies directly. Most of them must be thru consultants placed in INDIOA have small set up in America. Y blame the America for that. Y not blame the consultants those who got these brains. As far as lifestyle goes, one can have a good lifestyle in Hydrabad and Bangalore. Yes but one cannot SAVE THE WAY ONE CAN IN AMERICA. These are bad times. It has to pass.

Sun Apr 15 12:21:23 2001
Name:praveen
Email:pr_jain77@hotmail.com
Views:i think that indians have been blessed by god for their intelligence as well hardwork , why do people think that it is not possible to earn in india,but that perception has to change.why cant we take the responsibility be united , change our attitude instead of being a bunch of crabs pulling others legs why can't we help each other to make our land more prosperous

Sun Apr 15 13:01:41 2001
Name:JAMAL
Email:khajajamal@rediffmail.com
Views:I beleive that it's clear that America never want's any one to be on the top.Especially for about last 5 years India got an Edge over America in Software Technology which is against the policy of America . The point to be noted is that what all started happening it did only after the Elections in America. It makes very clear that Clinton was not able to do this what Bush has done. Well I am Sure of it.

Sun Apr 15 14:14:27 2001
Name:ajit
Email:aca1970@yahoo.com
Views:I think its unfair to lay off H1B workers without any notice. I think if they lobby enough, they can get a better deal from the INS.. But the mess Indians are in right now has a lot do with Indians itself.. Every kid in India now wants to be a IT professional.. I know people with no proper IT background or skills had taken up a 3 months JAVA course and gone to US.. IT boom is expected to saturate soon. like any other boom.. when that happens.. there will not be much scope for IT professions.. So..please my fellow Indians.. please dont screw up the scene.. by coming into IT field only... take up other areas like electrical,mechanical etc.. This cut back is a blessing in disguise as this will ensure that only people with good skills will land up in US and not spoil our reputation.

Sun Apr 15 14:35:52 2001
Name:chitvan palia
Email:chitvanpalia@rediffmail.com
Views:sir, i think it is very bad situation for indians.but companies who called indian IT and U.S.A goverment take some action about worse situation .In past these IT have earned million of dollers as revenu for U.S.A chitvan palia

Sun Apr 15 16:58:24 2001
Name:vijaysridhar
Email:vijaysridhar@rediffmail.com
Views:it is very sad to sak people to leave for india they should stay there only. fight until u suceed . BEST OF LUCK TO ALL THERE(US)

Sun Apr 15 17:05:06 2001
Name:avssharma
Email:avssharma@rediff.com
Views:we are all ways depend on usa, rathere then we are not tryed any othere country naver before thise things in usa, thise problem will not solve here the china is comeing in to software field, my advise is where ever u get good job now settle there, we are having the habit of dependnece, forget that try tu think urs self then only we will settle in life, otherevise we have to suffre a lot.

Sun Apr 15 17:09:47 2001
Name:V.Y.Sundar
Email:vysundar@yahoo.com
Views:India does not have any basic technology. IT was just labour oriented, yes educated labour. Some day bubble was to burst.Like the middle east boom. Why these people can not do anything for their country here than to beg for a citizenship of a country who will treat them third class citizens.

Sun Apr 15 17:20:41 2001
Name:rajvn
Email:rajvn@yahoo.com
Views:I am sure that this temporary phase will make the Indian IT industry strong for the long run. It is only good that we realise that we are a dependent market on the US and it is time to look for greener pastures.

Sun Apr 15 17:36:55 2001
Name:Prajapati Mahesh
Email:prajapatimahesh@rediffmail.com
Views:I think it is just too much to ask a person who has worked his heart out on the job, to leave the country immediately on losing the job. The socio-political Indian activists should take lead in making the authorities realize the contributions made by the software developers to the US economy and thus be more accomodating on the H1B issue. I believe the tough ones will still survive this turbulence. Uncertainty in job is built into the US culture and we must accept that as much as the fact that this is the land of opportunities. So guys, pull your socks up, there are and will be a lots of opportuinities for us. No need to lose heart.

Sun Apr 15 18:50:43 2001
Name:Ravi Reddy
Email:rku_reddy@yahoo.com
Views:When the economy slows down, first bunch of people to lose their jobs are high priced consultants who bill hourly at a client's site. Some of these consultants I have come across have questional credentials at the best. I guess they are the ones who have difficulty in finding new jobs. For instance i got laidoff from company in pittsburgh ( with 3 weeks severence ). Found a job in fairfax, va in 4 weeks. I urge all the cry babies to do some self intrispection. Things out there are not as bad as portrayed in this message board.

Sun Apr 15 19:12:40 2001
Name:Sammy
Email:sammy@pw.com
Views:Let's get it straight..USA doesnt owe us any thing and we dont owe them any thing. All H1bs came here to make money , end of story. And moreover most of those who came in the last two years have highly questionable credentials. This bubble just had to burst and it did. One more thig...its a fallacy that H1's are laid off first and others later... I have seen in my situation they have laid off people in random order.some employees got fired but most H1s still have their jobs.

Sun Apr 15 20:15:14 2001
Name:Rajesh Chitte
Email:quickie@rediffmail.com
Views:It seems to be very hard days ahead, AS we all know americans are very shrewd marketeers, they will control the situation comfortably by laying off of IT proffessionals. Now only solution left for indian techies is that instead of working there they should have to work here and strengthen indian economy. Dont give up is the last word i want to say.

Sun Apr 15 20:26:22 2001
Name:Sanjeev
Email:Smv@hotmail.com
Views:It seems that most of the H-1 folks are forgetting that they were granted a TEMPORARY NON-IMMIGRANT WORK VISA. Right from the outset it's clear that H-1Bs were being brought as a temporary help. Its amazing that many folks are making all these ridiculous arguments - we are paying taxes etc. etc.- so what?! Are you making any "upkar" to the US govt. or what? According to my information, if you're leaving US for good, you have the right to request a refund of paid social security taxes. Ultimately, this is all question of demand and supply. In mid 70s Indian doctors were getting a royal welcome - Today if you're a doctor, you shouldn't even think about applying for a US visa. I think that's what is going to happen in IT. Folks, let's accept the fact that US is not as rosy as it looks from 15-15000 miles and that now it's time to go back to our own country. WE ARE NOT MEXICANS - LET'S NOT GET SO DESPARATE FOLKS!!! CHEER UP!!

Sun Apr 15 21:26:38 2001
Name:Kris
Email:krisvl74@yahoo.com
Views:Some evesdroppers on this board who are having fun by asking people to get out of this country should understand that these H1 people are FAR FAR MORE decent and educated than those undeserving european settlers who came in here first. And who are citizens of this country now. Needless to say most of their descendants , those beer guzzling, slimy bastards now the CITIZENS of this country must be thrown out instead. Color is not a criteria here. If they think only work matters and success matters and if making this country richer is the criteria.

Sun Apr 15 21:28:57 2001
Name:abit
Email:abitm@hotmail.com
Views:It is unfortunate that such a situation has come- well it is the market forces that is dictating. So they were issued visas for a specific purpose and when that purpose is no longer there they have to leave. Life has its ups and downs and this is one of them. This is the only way to see it. They should take consolation in the fact that they have less fortunate brothers / sisters back home who cannot even dream of leaving the shores of the country to better their lives. They still have the option of trying other legal means to be here in USA or even other countries as well. I wish them good luck.

Sun Apr 15 21:58:57 2001
Name:Puneet
Email:puneet2001@rediffmail.com
Views:I think, that is the most insecure thing in US, there are always options for the IT greeks,. of course they are not supposed to sit there happily and carry on with their jobs, they got to always look for the better

Mon Apr 16 00:52:27 2001
Name:arval
Email:arval_k@Yahoo.com
Views:There are two Issues A)Job B)Return to India You can find jobs as long as you match u r Skill sets with Job.Join hands with other guys and start u r company (LLC)and work at 3/4the present price bet there cost saving with price less the middle men.U can still do very well in USA.

Mon Apr 16 01:26:27 2001
Name:Ashish K Parekh
Email:reachash@yahoo.com
Views:It's most unfortunate to happen for all those who have to come back. But then one must not forget that they have a very good experience and exposure from world's best market place. A person who has worked there and who is not very rigid may not have problem. At the same time we all must learn not to go GA GA over this visa category. I mean it's ok to try for it but one should not put one's life on hold for the same. A better option could be permanent resident visa for canada/australia/new zealand. Whatever may happen to the Sillicon Valley the demand for IT professional is going to remain for many years to come. So all the best to you all. Bye Ashish K Parekh

Mon Apr 16 02:22:04 2001
Name:Viruthan
Email:viruthan@hotmail.com
Views:Very Bad.

Mon Apr 16 04:54:25 2001
Name:INDIAN
Email:Indian@hotmail.com
Views:ALL THE INDIANS BORN TO INDIANS PLEASE COME BACK TO INDIA & MAKE INDIA & YOUR HOME STRONGER,HEALTHEIR & EDUCATED rather than fighting for these silly H1-visa & green-grass!!! Love India

Mon Apr 16 05:57:37 2001
Name:Sandy
Email:sankeys@yahoo.com
Views:What a situation in US. What a mistake I made in coming over here. I was better off in India..

Mon Apr 16 08:46:39 2001
Name:Satish Agrawal
Email:satish@agrawalji.com
Views:Dreamland is still green for the talent!!! No matter how deep the silicon valley sinks, it will always welcome the talent, although the techno-kulis will find it difficult to survive in the slowdown. Now the young people with a 2 month diploma from xyz institute in hyderabad or pune, showing 4 years of experience in their resume and claiming to be software gurus, wont get an easy entry to this land of opportunites. What about the H1-holders!!! A big issue!!!But still the American compaies are holding desi guys who have all the talent to perform excellently. Those who cant prove themselves will be the ultimate loosers. Bottomline is: Talent is needed and respected everywhere. May it be India or US. No recession can stop talent.

Mon Apr 16 08:47:14 2001
Name:LostGeneration
Email:bossguy24@excite.com
Views:Indian youth is finally heading for catastrophic end which they themselves have chosen. All of these are bogies of an engine behind which they keep on moving without even knowing their interests , there strengths and weekness. If there is a breach in the track on which this train is moving , the engine which has good speed and who is in front - will cross this hurdle as the driver is alert and he has the handle .... but what will happen to all these mind less bogies who are just following this engine. Lets sit and watch !!!!!!

Mon Apr 16 09:09:18 2001
Name:Anon
Email:Anonymouse@hotmail.com
Views:Good job the Media is doing. Atleast it would stop fake people from spending life savings in craze for US dreams. As far as real talent is concerned., no one is leaving US. Most horror stories have been from SanFransisco and Bay area. US is huge and other states still have great demand for IT pros. If we take the boom time, we should be prepared to take the bears too... For most with worries relax. Demand for IT is not in saturation it is only in a temporary correction phase. Boom time will be back soon in last quarter of this year.

Mon Apr 16 09:09:18 2001
Name:Chetan
Email:cns1973@hotmail.com
Views:Hi I think thAt every H1 B holders should be given some time to stay here like 6 months or more. As when people work on H1B visa'a they pay Social security, Medicare, SDI and all kinds of taxes but they get nothing in return when they leave from here after 3 or 6 years, that's really unfortunate. H 1B Visa holders has really contributed to the good of silicon Valley and they are the worst hit in bad times as well as good times too. Thanks, Chetan

Mon Apr 16 09:11:02 2001
Name:Mrinmoy Saha
Email:mrinmoy@usa.net
Views:Hi, Me and my wife are both S/W professional based in silicon valley working on H1-B. I am working as a consultant (having 5+ years of experience in Microsoft technologies) and my wife is working in a small startup (having ~4 years of experience in Java related technologies). Now because of the market condition, we both facing dificulties with our profession and also considering opportunities out of bay area as well. If anyone can inform about any requirement he/she knows that will be of great help. Contact me in mrinmoy@usa.net Thanks, --Mrinmoy

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