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How Readers responded to T V R Shenoy's recent columns

Date sent: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:43:14 -0500
From: gopikiran <banda_9@hotmail.com>
Subject: From a Rediff reader

I am a Rediff reader and it is distressing to note the attitude of leaders like Surjeet. Had the Sardar been the prime minister of India first, we wouldn't have faced so many problems. It is India's misfortune to have leaders like Surjeet, who tell the public a heap of lies. I would like to thank Shenoy for presenting this article. Hope he continues to write such articles in future.

Gopikiran

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:30:11 -0500
From: Jawahar Challa <challasitaram@jdcorp.deere.com>
Subject: Mr Shenoy's article

Mr Shenoy is very correct in trying to highlight the dis- and mis- information of today's Indian Communists. Communists' record during the freedom struggle was rather dubious. Their views at that time regarding Mahatma Gandhi or Subhas Chandra Bose were in great contrast to their public stance today, so were their crocodile tears over Gandhi. They did not even have the minimum sympathy towards the mainstream freedom struggle or the national leaders who were not Communists at the time.

During the 1950s, Andhra Pradesh was under Communist influence for good measure. And during one of the elections there was bitter competition between Communists and others. At the time, many Telugu public figures, poets and editors wrote columns with titles like 'Why I am not a Communist' citing many instances of Communist antipathy to the freedom movement and national figures like Gandhi and Bose. Because generations are changing, it is necessary that such misinformation should not be allowed to perpetrate, lest the public in future may juxtapose truth and falsehood.

If the Communists are confident of their yesteryear views and acts, they should own up and maintain those things or publicly explain the changes in their views.

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:21:45 -0700
From: "Srinivas Penumaka" <spenumaka@caresoft.com>
Subject: T V R Shenoy's article: Ladder of lies

Shenoy put forward his thoughts very coherently as regards the Hyderabad liberation. Very little is known and written in history books we study in India about the historic deeds of Sardar Patel. History needs to be corrected and put in correct perspective, so that we can judge for ourselves who is involved in what. Communists may be hoping that Goebbels propaganda technique may work and they may be close to Hitler at heart. However, truth does prevail at the end. Only concern is that when the truth does prevail, it should not be too late.

Srinivas Penumaka

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:04:23 +0530
From: Amber Habib <habib@mri.ernet.in>
Subject: Ladder of lies -- T V R Shenoy

In his haste to defend the RSS, Mr Shenoy has alas decided to "prove" allegations of lying by lying himself. I refer to his claim that the Communists allied with the Razakars during the Nizam's time, a claim apparently contradicted by his own remarks, and more explicitly in a recent article by Parvathi Menon in Frontline.

I confine myself to his own remarks. He says the Communists led a peasant rebellion in "the then Hyderabad state, a princely state refusing to join the India Union." How then could they have been allied with the Razakars, who were a force backed by the Nizam? The quote he gives of "the Razakars rule by day and the Communists at night", also does more to discredit his claim than to support it. It suggests a rivalry between the two, consistent with the Razakars being part of the ruling elite, and the Communists leading the underground struggle. If the two were allied as he would have us think, why would they rule at separate times?

If Mr Shenoy must get his kicks by fabricating history, let him at least take the trouble to make his fabrications consistent.

Amber Habib

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:03:58 -0400
From: Bhavesh Parekh <bparekh@xcom.net>
Subject: Good work TVR

This article by Shenoy is really wonderful. The Marxists in India are trying hard to gain media attention. Surjeet and company will help them in doing so. Maybe they are working on the strategy, that spoken loud and repeatedly, the wrong can become a right! That's the reason they couldn't establish themselves in most Indian states. Street-fights are better to hear, than a Marxist attacking the government. They don't deserve this attention!

Bhavesh

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:44:58 -0500
From: Murthy <sanctionsmyfoot@hotmail.com>
Subject: Ladder of lies

Thank you for a refresher course in Indian history, Mr Shenoy. At least a small part. I had been dubbed wrong when I argued with friends that Communists did line with enemies during crucial moments of Indian history.

Correct me if I am wrong --
1. They sided with the British during the freedom struggle.
2. They sided with the Razakars during the Hyderabad crisis and can actually be charged with secession.
3. They supported the Chinese during the Indo-China war
4. They supported Indira Gandhi during the Emergency.
5. They pose as the ultimate secularist party with the best ideologies but shun the majority community at every available opportunity.
6. The only charge that they have against the current government is that it is "communal", without even specifying what communal clean-up is the government attempting at the moment. Surjeet wants to support anyone who can overthrow this democratically elected government.

Srinivas Murthy

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:21:59 EDT
From: <SajiMari@aol.com>
Subject: Ladder of Lies

The contents of the article are just the plain simple truth. What I cannot understand is why the CPI-M -- a regional party which has roots only in three states -- is given so much relevance in national politics. The CPI-M general secretary goes around the country as if he is the shadow prime minister of the country!!! He is critical about all the other parties in the country and then goes on to say that he could support any party for forming a government. He supported V P Singh with the BJP when he did not want the Congress in power. Then he supported the Deva Gowda and I K Gujral governments with the support of Congress against the BJP.

He is just a person who belongs to a party which does not want a strong government at the Centre. If there is a strong government at the Centre, there is no room for his party to play any role, but when there is a weak government like one of Deve Gowda or Gujral, then his party and himself can play godfather or a shadow prime minister's role in national politics. Its high time the ruling party asked Surjeet to keep him under check.

Everyone who knows the history of the freedom struggle knows what the CPI-M has done during those days. The CPI-M is trying to defend itself by spreading things about other parties. Communism has taken a fall in almost all countries, but in India it goes on as if that's the only alternative.

Sajith

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:27:00 +0530
From: V Shankar <shankarv@genius.tisl.soft.net>
Subject: Ladder of lies: TVR Shenoy

The article has brought many interesting facts about the Communists. If the Communists are allowed to talk and change history as they please, it is because of the Nehru dynasty (I would not like to mention Gandhi here....for it might refer to the Mahatma) that people have forgotten about the deeds of the Sardar and Rajaji. We have not had many politicians who would declare on the floor of the assembly about their ideals and prejudices (Rajaji did just that in 1952 when he was made chief minister of the Madras state -- he said 'Communist is my first enemy').

But for his and the Sardar's timely interference, India would have disintegrated long back. The country has inherited more from the Nehru dynasty than from such outstanding personalities. We cannot blame the Communists alone for this. The others are also to blame.

Shankar V

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:54:43 +0530
From: "Raghavendra Babu .H.C" <raghu@meghadoot.hiso.honeywell.com>
Subject: Ladder of Lies

It's true, that Communists played an anti-national role, while others were struggling to get freedom. It is a strange thing that everyone in India twists history as they want, but they forget that they are doing a foolish thing, because history cannot be rewritten.

Please never listen to their foolish talk, but never ignore them also. In this matter your effort to bring the truth is appreciated, Shenoy.

Raghu

Date sent: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:40:53 +0530
From: Raj Sawhney <rsawhney@sapta.com>
Subject: Ladder of lies

Truth has been told. Good. Malice or no malice, the fact is that Surjeet loves to make outrageous statements. That's his hobby.

R Sawhney

Date sent: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:30:08 -0400
From: Amit Rathod <amit@insight.att.com>
Subject: T V R Shenoy's article on Surjeet

Excellent article. Surjeet, with all respect is not interested in the well being of India. I am very confused how come his party is still in power in WB, Kerala and Tripura. I think India will become free when these Commies becomes extinct.

Amit

Date sent: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:38:19 -0500
From: "Amit Vora" <amit@execpc.com>
Subject: T V R Shenoy's column

I would like to praise the writer for bringing out the truth. Everyone in India (especially southern India) and the outside seems to think that Gandhi was a great man and that he liberated India. Yes, Gandhi had a definite role in the freedom struggle. He led the struggle. But, without Sardar Patel, India would have been nothing but 562 princely states. It was Patel who MADE today's India. Winston Churchill had said that there is no such thing as a United India. 'We will be back in two years and they will still be fighting.' If Sardar Patel was not there, yes, that statement would have been true.

A few examples of what Sardar would have achieved for India, had he been the first PM.
1. There would have been no conflict of Kashmir. It would have been part of India, because the issue would not have gone to the UN.
2. India would have voted in favour of the formation of the independent state of Israel, which would have kept India and Israel friends for long, (advantage -- technology from the Western world).
3. India would have allied with the West, whose motto is quality over quantity.
4. China would not have invaded Tibet. Patel had insisted that we make buffer zones (create nations like the Allied powers did to Germany in WWI) between India and China. So that when China does attack, we have more time.
5. He would have also allowed a base for the Americans in the northern part of India. This would have kept the Pakistanis, Afghans, the whole of Middle East, and China away. (Although I would hate to see Americans in the region, it would have been a very good move considering the circumstances).

Date sent: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:35:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mukul Gupta <sg967tc6@drexel.edu>
Subject: TVR Shenoy's article on RSS and Communists

I don't know what history we read in India -- I read about Nehru, the whole China catastrophe, giving away Coco islands, the way we dealt with Hyderabad... We have the most inept set of history writers ever. Most meek individuals, journalists who can't stand up to bullies like the Yadav gang and Kanshi Ram. They then have a patronising opinion. What about our army, as long as our generals are financially secure they will let cronies declare emergency. Have they heard how the Turkish army secures a social structure for the country?

Mukul Gupta
Philadelphia

Date sent: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:08:29 -0700
From: "Purvesh T. Khona" <purvesh@Eng.Sun.COM>
Subject: Ladder of lies

The article is an interesting eye opener. For long we have been witnessing the BJP branded as communal, bad for the society etc... The people who have been using such childish words were no other than Communists (ugh) , Laloo, Mulayam and the Congress. All of these three vested parties have something to their discredit which they are afraid of, worried that the BJP will remain in power for long. Hence unnecessary allegations.

For decades they have been blaming the RSS for the murder of Gandhi. All these accusations were, as Shenoy points out, to hide the true facts, to distract the people away from their fallacies. Till today a senior politician like Surjeet does not realise the fact that people are not fools. I wonder why such parties are even allowed to voice their lies.

Communists are nothing but a bunch of spineless people. The philosophy of Communism is itself put to a question mark by the world and they think they can change the perspective of others. People never liked the Communist rule, it's only a handful of people who want to have power that are propagating the same.

According to me, Communists are people with double standards. They like to have controlled freedom of speech for others but as far as they are concerned, they want to misuse this freedom in all the possible ways by making false allegations. I have never heard the BJP criticising any other party like the Communists and the Congress do. This is what sets them apart from Commies.

Good writing Shenoy, people should be given such true reports for a change.

Purvesh

T V R Shenoy

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